Sonera TV - Mac?

[juliopro]

Hi guys!

I've get this Sonera TV and I'm trying to connect it to my iMac.
I bought this Scart to RCA converter and i'm plugin it through the Thomson router - Motorola Digiboksi - eyeTV stick but there's not results.

Does anyone know of any possible solution?


Kiitos!
Julio

[kallekilponen]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? The combination of components you've described don't really ring any bells…

[juliopro]

Hi Kalle!

What I try i just to watch TV on my iMac.
I have TV channels through Sonera (http://www5.sonera.fi/ohjeet/Thomson_TG789)

And so far I cannot have any result.

[Muffe]

So you want to use iMac as an TV for the digibox? That's going to be at least tricky or probably even impossible. If you can tell the exact model of your iMac there might be a solution for you.

[juliopro]

Moi!

I can tell you the exactly model this evening when I'm back home. But the iMac has a year and a half of being purchased. In other words, isn't an old model.

[DiZeX]

Have you selected the input as composite or RCA in the eyeTV software? What kind of eyeTV stick do you have?

[juliopro]

Hi!

I've the eyetv hybrid.

Searching / looking for solutions; I found this like the most perfect a possible one:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/ ... rt-muunnin

[mikastus]

That might work if your iMac is a 27 inch model. Kanex makes equivalent adapters too, they might be a little cheaper.

There might be a cheaper solution still.

It might be possible to watch Sonera koti-tv through ethernet straight from the multicast stream with VLC software. I can't try it out by myself right now, but it costs nothing if you try it. Wireless connection does not work, because no multicast stream is sent through WiFi by thomson equipment in question.

Ethernet cable from thomson to iMac, open VLC, and use these UDP addresses to connect to stream:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,YLE1
udp://@239.16.116.1:5555
#EXTINF:0,YLE2
udp://@239.16.116.2:5555
#EXTINF:0,MTV3
udp://@239.16.116.3:5555
#EXTINF:0,Nelonen
udp://@239.16.116.4:5555
#EXTINF:0,FST5
udp://@239.16.116.5:5555
#EXTINF:0,Sub
udp://@239.16.116.6:5555
#EXTINF:0,YLE Teema
udp://@239.16.116.7:5555
#EXTINF:0,Liv
udp://@239.16.116.8:5555
#EXTINF:0,4 Pro 2
udp://@239.16.116.9:5555
#EXTINF:0,The Voice
udp://@239.16.116.10:5555
#EXTINF:0,TV7
udp://@239.16.116.11:5555
#EXTINF:0,SuomiTV
udp://@239.16.116.12:5555
#EXTINF:0,TV5
udp://@239.16.116.13:5555
#EXTINF:0,JIM
udp://@239.16.116.14:5555
#EXTINF:0,YLEN KLASSINEN
udp://@239.16.116.15:5555

Addresses might have changed, or might change in the future. This resolution is not supported by Sonera.

edit. Unfortunately I think the pay channels will propably not work (scrambled).

[juliopro]

Moi!

Yes, I've an iMac is a 27 inch model. So, I hope this Belkin adapter could work. I just need to be sure before spend 135€.
I was looking for Kanex adapter, but I cannot find it in Finland. Of course, I can buy it by international webshop, but it would take some time to get it at home and I want to enjoy the 3 months free of the Sonera Koti TV.

I'll try this UDP addresses too. Thanks for the info. Unfortunately probably doesn't work with pay channels.

So, I think that I should get this Belkin adapter. Have you tried before? or do you know if really could work in this case?

[mikastus]

Sorry I can't confirm the workings of that adapter, because I don't have one. My iMac is an older 24" model without video input.

Belkin (and Kanex) commercial information and technical spesifications suggests that it will work, but I agree, you don't know for sure until you try them.

However, I can confirm that free channels do work through ethernet. I had a 10 meter ethernet cable at hand, and I am just watching YLE Teema with VLC through cat-5e ethernet cable.

[juliopro]

Hi!

I just ordered the Belkin adapter. Now I've to wait couple of days to get it at home.
Anyway they have promise to give me my money back i doesn't work.

Fingers crossed....

[juliopro]

UDP addresses are working perfectly with VLC as you said.
Thanks again for the advice.

How can I try with the paid channels?

[mikastus]

They are scrambled as I thought they would. If you want to see how, just add the last IP-number step by step, and you will see the garbage by yourself.
For example:
udp://@239.16.116.27:5555

ch27.png

edit.Good luck with the adapter. Please tell your experiences with it later.
edit2. I think the motorola box does the descrambling of paid channels.

[juliopro]

Hi!

The Belkin AV360 adapter is working very good.
Very easy to use and also very good quality.

[arttula]

Ethernet cable from thomson to iMac, open VLC, and use these UDP addresses to connect to stream:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,YLE1
udp://@239.16.116.1:5555

Where in VLC should I put these addresses ? Well, I have a finnish version of VLC, so finnish is appreciated in the answer.

[mikastus]

Arkisto / Avaa verkko

Voi näemmä syöttää joko MRL kohtaan koko rimpsun, tai sitten UDP-/RTP-multicast -kohtaan osoitteen ja portin.

[arttula]

Arkisto / Avaa verkko

Voi näemmä syöttää joko MRL kohtaan koko rimpsun, tai sitten UDP-/RTP-multicast -kohtaan osoitteen ja portin.

Äh... Ei vaan osaa. Tai sitten tuo ei muuten vaan toimi.

[mikastus]

Voipi olla että verkkoasetuksista tulee vaihtaa se internettikin kulkemaan ethernetlankaa pitkin, mikäli se oli ennen langattomasti. Itse tein niin ja toimii.

Mun mielestä kaikki ulospäin tarkoitetut portit Thomssonissa pitäisi puskea sitä multicastia, mutta en ole varma. Voit kai vielä koettaa vaihtaa piuhan paikkaa siellä Thomssonissa.

[arttula]

Voipi olla että verkkoasetuksista tulee vaihtaa se internettikin kulkemaan ethernetlankaa pitkin, mikäli se oli ennen langattomasti. Itse tein niin ja toimii.

Mun mielestä kaikki ulospäin tarkoitetut portit Thomssonissa pitäisi puskea sitä multicastia, mutta en ole varma. Voit kai vielä koettaa vaihtaa piuhan paikkaa siellä Thomssonissa.

Missä ihmeen Thomssonissa ? Tarvitaanko sellainen, että tuo toimisi ?

[mikastus]

Soneran koti-tv:n mukana tulee kai yleisimmin tuo mainittu Thomssonin päätelaite, jossa on reititin langalle ja langattomuudelle. Tästä vedetään ethernetpiuha Motorolan digiboxille, ja siitä telkkariin HDMI tai Scart -piuhalla. Thomssonilta voi myös vetää sen ethernetin 3:lle muulle laitteelle, ja ne portit puskevat myös tuota multicast -lähetystä. Tämän vuoksi VLC:kin osaa ne näyttää, siis ainakin minulla.

Aiemmin on tullut kuulemma (ja ohjekirjankin perusteella) joitakin erilaisia laitteita. Nykyhetkenkään laitebundletilanteesta en tiedä. Eli enpä sitten välttämättä osaakaan enempiä neuvoa, sori.